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Postby princessofmyjesus on Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:33 pm

marsel wrote:Yeah well I wouldn`t like to be in a secret society, but I sooo love to learn everything I can about them! Hey, can anyone tell me some more about Aleister Crowley? I am trying to find some more, but I just can`t.. lol He was in Golden Dawn if you don`t know.. and I wonder what the Illuminatis are doing under the Masonic name?? This world is just so under control of all the secret societies.. did you know that the Club of Rome let some people make the Aids and then let it spread in Africa.. to control the population on the earth, what I think is a very good thing.

You think people dying of aids is a good thing?????
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Postby Hunter~Jumper on Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:48 pm

she does.. lol.. i remember me and her discussed it one day. i think to control the population
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Postby marsel on Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:13 pm

Yes, the human population on this planet needs to be controlled! There are way too many people living here and we are using up all the resources and turning good soils into deserts. And destroying the nature all the time. And as the life becomes better in Africa and Asia, as we help these people, they will have more children that won`t die and then they would need more food all the time. They won`t learn to control the number of children before 100 years or so, they just don´t want to, and then it will already be too late!!! ALL the people on this planet will then starve to death, or there will be horrible wars, people fighting for the last food. And lots and lots of more nature catastrophes that we ourselves have caused.. Like the agent Smith said in the Matrix: "Human race is the cancer of this planet. And we are the cure!" Well I think we don´t have machines yet, but we DO HAVE TO FIND THE CURE!!! And the cure would be a disease that isn`t cureable. We have to kill some other people to stay alive ourselves! Kill or let yourself be killed, eat or let yourself be eaten, these are the rules in the wild and soon also in the civilization. Own skin is closer, isn`t it? This planet is going to be destroyed anyway, but why don`t we save the resources and the nature for us for a little bit longer?
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Postby Stacy on Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:51 pm

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I have heard the theory before. The fact is, the human population is exploding. Japan has already begun to moniter its population. Sociologist estimate that WITHIN the next 100 years, dozens more contires will begin to discuss haing the same kind of laws, monitering the birth rate. The fact is, there just will NOT be enough food.

I can't say I agree with destoying living people. I can kinda lean in the way of monitering birth rates...but NOT killing off people who are already living.

I'm about to make some people REALLY mad at me-

I'm also pro-choice.
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Postby marsel on Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:56 pm

Pro-choice? Sorry, I don`t understand..
Yeah, birth control is good, but the thing is that I don`t think most Africans would understand it when they can`t even read.. So right now I think we should only help them with education, but definitely not with food and medicaments. If help at all.
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Postby Stacy on Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:55 pm

It has to do with the right for women to have abortions.

Pro-choice means that you believe that women should have the right to make their own decisions regarding abortions. If a woman wants to terminate her pregnacy, that choice is hers and hers alone.


Pro-life means that you believe that abortions should be illegal. There are people who want to make abortions illegal becuase they see it the same way as they see murder. They beleive that a fetus is the same thing as a human being with a soul and rights.

It's a big debat here in the states. My position is that it is the woman's body and she makes her own choices. What's next? Government madated flu shots? Women have fought long and hard to have the right to control their own bodies. I'm not about to let all that work go to waste.

As I sit here, never been pregant, I would never have an abortion, but I still think that it is an option that women deserve tomake for theselves.
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Postby princessofmyjesus on Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:16 pm

I'm pro life, its the womans choice, but its still a murder.
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Postby Skatastic on Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:05 pm

pro-choice...

I think every women should have her own choices, including on abortion. If a women doesnt want a kid, obviously she's not ready for one... and who knows how that kid is going to be living if the mother never truly wanted him/her at first. this might sounds wrong but its better it get it over with before they actually see the world then let them live and suffer with knowledgement that their mom never really wanted them in the first place.
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Postby princessofmyjesus on Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:23 pm

I think adoption is the better route, like I said, it's murder.
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Postby meaganandesi on Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:07 pm

i agree with pomj xcept that if the women had the baby and couldn;t get the adoption thing together or w/e this baby's not gonna have the greatest life it should and the mothers not going to be happy.. im both
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